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		<title>By: Dale Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description>This is good.  Actually, very well thought. It was a breath of fresh air for me to read this that actually has logic to it -- logic is dying in the age of internet.
I assume this refers to the war in Iraq.  
It is true that people cannot handle a democracy after so many years of oppression.  And, as I will cite below, their religion and culture forbids democracy of any kind which is why there are really none in the Mideast (there is a reason for it!).  Their culture is mutually exclusive to the Western concept of liberty and democracy.  It was a bad decision to invade -- not because it is always bad to go to war (it is always undesirable but sometimes necessary) or because we are not doing anything for freedom for ourselves, but because they cannot handle freedom or Western style Democracy.  They have had no assimilation and no cultural background for a democracy.  Saddam knew this which is why he was so brutal.  I&#039;m against what he did.  But he did keep the throat cutters from doing what they now do daily (it’s the way they use freedom – they use it to cut throats).  Saddam knew this brutal truth.  The only thing they respond to is a hard boot.  Let up and you die.  He knew how to control it the only way they would respond to.
America can&#039;t become apathetic in response while a culture that is mutually exclusive to liberty (by its doxy and more.  That is what Franklin meant.  He was concerned that our Democracy is too easy to exploit by those who would turn it into a tyrannical state in the name of democracy -- that dictators and more could easily use it to weaken it (which is exactly what is happening now).  Look beyond the 2nd level of politics (the Demicans and Republicrats) and see who their masters are and you will see what is actually motivating the death of liberty in the USA (Globalist movement -- globalist corporations -- where the very few own almost everything!  That’s another argument though.  I personally believe the goal of Hillary and George W is a manorial system of government with the facade of a democracy like the ever corrupt Mexico we are importing here -- diseases, foreign language and all.   A dumbed down peasantry is the greatest consumer group any government-media-corporate world can dream of).
The concept of global unity and maintaining American democracy is, at present, impossible.  A mere feelgood thought lacking sophistication, true knowledge of culture(s) and a dangerous naiveté.    And that’s only one level.  On the greedy corporate level, it’s all about consumerism.   Why sell to only 230 million?  The USA is a small consumer group comparatively.  There’s more $$$$ to be made by those who have no religion, no culture, no nation  and no language (except sterile corporatespeak).  They will force people together as
There are DNA differences within ethnicities.  People evolved with what made their cultures move.  Only the United States, from the Holy Bible to the Magna Carta to the Constitution have evolved into this unique style of freedom.  
That explains well why the 3rd world is what it is.  For example, read the Koran (the real one -- not the censored ones that colleges hand out to brainwash kids).  You will see why there is terrorism in the mideast no matter how many concessions you make to terrorists (In fact, concessions has increased terrorism on a global scale because people make a mistake of cultural narcissism:  they think just like I do -- when they don&#039;t! They see kindness as weakness).  It&#039;s in their doctrine from it&#039;s inception.  It&#039;s inherent to a culture that forbids any type of freedom  (the women are forced to wear burkas and not allowed to vote).
Allowing people who have no restraint, no moral compass and are prescribed to murder all who do not belong to their terrorist doxy, amounts to suicide.  Historical precedence:  they only respect fear. 1500 years of terrorism to other cultures and within their own. Precept evidence:  It is their written doctrine to convert by the &quot;fire or sword&quot; and to cut the throat of the infidel.  The infidel is defined as anyone who is not them.
On top of all of this, is the reward they believe they will get for the most murders they can commit.
Now how do you stop it?  Social programs?  Midnight basketball?  They don&#039;t believe in that.  Do you fight?  They attacked us at least 3 times -- each time worse -- the USA did nothing and the last attack was planes laden with fuel into the World Trade towers.
Freedom is truly not free.  It means there are certain responsibilities that come with freedom that only a certain sophisticated culture can handle.  Unchecked total freedom is anarchy.  It&#039;s impossible.  It leads to slavery. Why?  The &quot;strongest&quot; survive. The absolute powerfully corrupt can take over and the &quot;nice&quot; are finished.
Just because George W is treating Iraq as a police action and not taking care of business, and messing the whole thing up, allowing greedy no bid contracts dictate whether our soldiers live or die.  And he is contradicting himself saying that we need to fight them over there when he keeps importing them here.  The violence from his feelgood “refugees” has already escalated in the USA malls, etc.  So we will have to fight them here eventually as he imports them.  And yes, we will have to fight.  There are times when a citizenry is faced with fight or die.  No other culture is so black and white as what we are “fighting.”  Unfortunately, the media and the government has blinded us and hushed up what we are fighting.  So it’s foggy to most people who don’t really study these cultures.  And they assume that Islam is like us by another name.  It is not.  But that too, is another argument.
Franklin believed that when most of the voters are the poorest, they would vote a dictator in.  It&#039;s paradoxical.   That people without sophistication are easy to exploit for votes (see illegal alien invasion and why both parties want them here:  easy to exploit for votes.  And they are doing this against the will of the American people).
The hardest blow to liberty at present  is on an intellectual level.  For example, I&#039;m risking writing the truth about Islam here.  The risk is being branded &quot;hate speech&quot; and &quot;racist&quot; -- the groupthink, one-size fits all answer to all problems for those who cannot reason, are intellectually dishonest, are the antitheses of freedom, and are doing exactly what Franklin feared:  exploiting liberty to end liberty whether they know it or not.
Start with free speech and the ability to criticize across the cultural board in the USA.  That&#039;s where it&#039;s being lost the most.  It is why art is dead.  After the social PC agents give the stamp to any script or artwork, you have sterilized thought. I am not talking about the freedom to teach gay sex to kindergarten children.  I&#039;m talking about the ability to criticize the very people who are ending free speech.  The real free speech.  The ones who say they are for it as long as it agrees with them.  And have an Orwellien “Fairness doctrine” to enforce it.  (Shut down talk radio but PBS does not have to have an alternative view.  A way to end all criticism of leftist thought in America – where the sheeple can be told what to think without criticism!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good.  Actually, very well thought. It was a breath of fresh air for me to read this that actually has logic to it &#8212; logic is dying in the age of internet.<br />
I assume this refers to the war in Iraq.<br />
It is true that people cannot handle a democracy after so many years of oppression.  And, as I will cite below, their religion and culture forbids democracy of any kind which is why there are really none in the Mideast (there is a reason for it!).  Their culture is mutually exclusive to the Western concept of liberty and democracy.  It was a bad decision to invade &#8212; not because it is always bad to go to war (it is always undesirable but sometimes necessary) or because we are not doing anything for freedom for ourselves, but because they cannot handle freedom or Western style Democracy.  They have had no assimilation and no cultural background for a democracy.  Saddam knew this which is why he was so brutal.  I&#8217;m against what he did.  But he did keep the throat cutters from doing what they now do daily (it’s the way they use freedom – they use it to cut throats).  Saddam knew this brutal truth.  The only thing they respond to is a hard boot.  Let up and you die.  He knew how to control it the only way they would respond to.<br />
America can&#8217;t become apathetic in response while a culture that is mutually exclusive to liberty (by its doxy and more.  That is what Franklin meant.  He was concerned that our Democracy is too easy to exploit by those who would turn it into a tyrannical state in the name of democracy &#8212; that dictators and more could easily use it to weaken it (which is exactly what is happening now).  Look beyond the 2nd level of politics (the Demicans and Republicrats) and see who their masters are and you will see what is actually motivating the death of liberty in the USA (Globalist movement &#8212; globalist corporations &#8212; where the very few own almost everything!  That’s another argument though.  I personally believe the goal of Hillary and George W is a manorial system of government with the facade of a democracy like the ever corrupt Mexico we are importing here &#8212; diseases, foreign language and all.   A dumbed down peasantry is the greatest consumer group any government-media-corporate world can dream of).<br />
The concept of global unity and maintaining American democracy is, at present, impossible.  A mere feelgood thought lacking sophistication, true knowledge of culture(s) and a dangerous naiveté.    And that’s only one level.  On the greedy corporate level, it’s all about consumerism.   Why sell to only 230 million?  The USA is a small consumer group comparatively.  There’s more $$$$ to be made by those who have no religion, no culture, no nation  and no language (except sterile corporatespeak).  They will force people together as<br />
There are DNA differences within ethnicities.  People evolved with what made their cultures move.  Only the United States, from the Holy Bible to the Magna Carta to the Constitution have evolved into this unique style of freedom.<br />
That explains well why the 3rd world is what it is.  For example, read the Koran (the real one &#8212; not the censored ones that colleges hand out to brainwash kids).  You will see why there is terrorism in the mideast no matter how many concessions you make to terrorists (In fact, concessions has increased terrorism on a global scale because people make a mistake of cultural narcissism:  they think just like I do &#8212; when they don&#8217;t! They see kindness as weakness).  It&#8217;s in their doctrine from it&#8217;s inception.  It&#8217;s inherent to a culture that forbids any type of freedom  (the women are forced to wear burkas and not allowed to vote).<br />
Allowing people who have no restraint, no moral compass and are prescribed to murder all who do not belong to their terrorist doxy, amounts to suicide.  Historical precedence:  they only respect fear. 1500 years of terrorism to other cultures and within their own. Precept evidence:  It is their written doctrine to convert by the &#8220;fire or sword&#8221; and to cut the throat of the infidel.  The infidel is defined as anyone who is not them.<br />
On top of all of this, is the reward they believe they will get for the most murders they can commit.<br />
Now how do you stop it?  Social programs?  Midnight basketball?  They don&#8217;t believe in that.  Do you fight?  They attacked us at least 3 times &#8212; each time worse &#8212; the USA did nothing and the last attack was planes laden with fuel into the World Trade towers.<br />
Freedom is truly not free.  It means there are certain responsibilities that come with freedom that only a certain sophisticated culture can handle.  Unchecked total freedom is anarchy.  It&#8217;s impossible.  It leads to slavery. Why?  The &#8220;strongest&#8221; survive. The absolute powerfully corrupt can take over and the &#8220;nice&#8221; are finished.<br />
Just because George W is treating Iraq as a police action and not taking care of business, and messing the whole thing up, allowing greedy no bid contracts dictate whether our soldiers live or die.  And he is contradicting himself saying that we need to fight them over there when he keeps importing them here.  The violence from his feelgood “refugees” has already escalated in the USA malls, etc.  So we will have to fight them here eventually as he imports them.  And yes, we will have to fight.  There are times when a citizenry is faced with fight or die.  No other culture is so black and white as what we are “fighting.”  Unfortunately, the media and the government has blinded us and hushed up what we are fighting.  So it’s foggy to most people who don’t really study these cultures.  And they assume that Islam is like us by another name.  It is not.  But that too, is another argument.<br />
Franklin believed that when most of the voters are the poorest, they would vote a dictator in.  It&#8217;s paradoxical.   That people without sophistication are easy to exploit for votes (see illegal alien invasion and why both parties want them here:  easy to exploit for votes.  And they are doing this against the will of the American people).<br />
The hardest blow to liberty at present  is on an intellectual level.  For example, I&#8217;m risking writing the truth about Islam here.  The risk is being branded &#8220;hate speech&#8221; and &#8220;racist&#8221; &#8212; the groupthink, one-size fits all answer to all problems for those who cannot reason, are intellectually dishonest, are the antitheses of freedom, and are doing exactly what Franklin feared:  exploiting liberty to end liberty whether they know it or not.<br />
Start with free speech and the ability to criticize across the cultural board in the USA.  That&#8217;s where it&#8217;s being lost the most.  It is why art is dead.  After the social PC agents give the stamp to any script or artwork, you have sterilized thought. I am not talking about the freedom to teach gay sex to kindergarten children.  I&#8217;m talking about the ability to criticize the very people who are ending free speech.  The real free speech.  The ones who say they are for it as long as it agrees with them.  And have an Orwellien “Fairness doctrine” to enforce it.  (Shut down talk radio but PBS does not have to have an alternative view.  A way to end all criticism of leftist thought in America – where the sheeple can be told what to think without criticism!)</p>
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